Hello Jaco,

I'm not seeing that here or it would never have been released!

The only thing I can think of is that the master files somehow have empty metadata tags embedded in them from another application - have you done any tagging with other applications before or after importing into Aperture?

Also, what type of file are the masters? JPEG, TIFF, RAW etc.

Thanks,

Ian

Hello Lee,

I never heard back from Jaco, and haven't seen this myself, which makes it hard to fix.:-(

Could you email me a couple of sample Masters? Use support add an at aperture-assistant add a dot com.

Ian

P.S. Did you mean OS X 10.5.4? Aperture 2.1 won't run on 10.4.5.
P.P.S. I deleted your email address from your signature, to prevent spambots harvesting it from the forum page.

Hi Ian,

I'm having a similar issue:

When I "Set Position" most of the metadata I entered in Aperture for the image is lost upon update. The only fields not wiped out are "keywords" and "event name."

This doesn't occur to metadata if the IPTC info is actually written to the file before importing to Aperture using another program (Nikon Capture NX2, Adobe Bridge or PhotoShop) or even Aperture, (but only if metadata is entered and then the master image is exported with the "include IPTC" drop down selected and then the image is reimported into Aperture).

I think the problem is that the metadata entered in Aperture is never written to the file and some how becomes disassociated with the image when GPS2Aperture updates the EXIF info.

Here's how to recreate the issue:
I'm using:
GPS2Aperture Lite 1.0.16, Aperture 2.1, Google Earth 4.3.7284.3916, Mac OSX 10.5.4

1) Import images (I've tried NEF, TIF and JPG) into Aperture (using referenced masters).

2) Enter metadata into caption, keywords, city, state, etc, either during or after import.

3) Set Position using GPS2Aperture.

4) Metadata entered in Aperture in all fields except keywords disappears.

I hope this helps. I really like the program. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Also, if you still need beta testers for GPS2Aperture Pro, let me know, I'm interested in testing it.

Thanks,

Ron Karpilo
Karpilo Photography
http://www.karpilo.com

Hello Ron,

I have large numbers of images with IPTC metadata entered in Aperture, and I've never seen the metadata fields get blanked by GPS2Aperture. As I said earlier in the thread, GPS2Aperture would never have been released if I had!
As I never heard back from Jaco or Lee this is making it a bit tricky to fix... :-( The only clue is that I've heard reports that Maperture is causing the same problems.

Could you email me one of your files? That way I can at least narrow down whether it's a problem with the files or the install of Aperture etc. I'll send you an email so that you have my address.

Thanks,

Ian

P.S. At the worst, I'll have to grab all the entered metadata and add it again after using 'Update EXIF From Master' if any of it changed. This would make GPS2Aperture slower, but metadata loss simply isn't acceptable.

Hi Ian,

I just sent you a RAW NEF test image from my Nikon D300 for you to try to recreate the disappearing metadata issue.

Other useful info:
I just tried using Maperture and it also wipes out all of the IPTC metadata entered in Aperture (except keywords and event name).

I'm not sure if it matters, but I'm working on a (non-Intel) Power Mac G5 Dual 2.3 GHz PowerPC.

Let me know if you need any more info,

Thanks,

Ron Karpilo
Karpilo Photography
http://www.karpilo.com

That the same thing is happening with Maperture is actually a bit of a relief to me - this means that it's either a bug in EXIFTool (which both GPS2Aperture and Maperture use to embed the GPS data) or with Aperture's 'Update EXIF from master' menu item. It's not a relief to you, of course...

It'll be a day or two before I can do thorough testing with the file you sent me, but I'll make sure to test on both Intel and PPC machines.

Thanks,

Ian

I've tracked this down to a bug in Aperture, as it's happening whenever EXIF data is updated in the master file by something other than Aperture. It doesn't appear to matter what software is used to alter the file.

I'll be filing a bug report with Apple, and also writing a workaround until the Aperture team fix it. Note that I'm away at Photokina all week, so it won't be in the near future...

Ian